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good afternoon and welcome to the orion

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flight test status and overview briefing

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we are less than two days away now from

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launch and we've got a great lineup here

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to tell you a little bit about what to

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expect on launch day so we're going to

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start here with the nasa

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and then we'll hear from the lockheed

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martin orion program manager mike haws

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and then

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we will wrap up with the united launch

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alliance director of mission management

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ron ron fortson

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so we'll start with some opening remarks

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from all of them and then we'll take

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questions here in the room so mark

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good afternoon thanks for coming i've

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got a few slides i want to talk a little

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bit about what orion is i think some of

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you most of you know that so i'll go

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through those fairly quick and then

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um about some of the stuff that's

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happening and then i'll pass it on to

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mike so this is a picture of the crew

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uh when it was in the onc before we put

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the launch abort system on it and before

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to the pad and so i like this picture

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because the eft-1 is really about

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fundamentally about the crew module it's

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the core of orion and those are the key

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systems that we're testing on this

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flight it's also a great picture of the

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let's go to the next page

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so on this flight we're on a delta iv

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heavy and i'll let ron talk about that

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but this is a great rocket for this test

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it gets us to the high altitude and the

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velocities we need to test the heat

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shield which is the primary objective of

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and it's a beautiful rocket we were out

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there seeing it today and it'd be a lot

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of fun on thursday to see it go so next

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um this is a picture of orion uh in the

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flight configuration this is actually

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the way it'll look on em1 the next

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flight because this actually shows the

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solar rays and the radiators on the

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uh by the next flight but it gives you a

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looks like in flight orion's built

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basically to go beyond lower thor but

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it's an exploration spacecraft and in

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concert with the space launch system

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which gets us to those destinations

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we're going to be able to explore the

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regions around the moon and then out

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into the solar system including mars so

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thursday is the beginning of that

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testing key systems the riskiest systems

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we've been meeting

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each day

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we mark and i go right from here to the

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day the meeting today

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and we'll meet again tomorrow

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even though we're back on console about

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midnight tomorrow to to get ready for

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launch

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so that's been a unique aspect but we've

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also tried to do that

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as effectively

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as we can we have not created additional

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just because we had this role so for

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example

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our friends here in kennedy the the

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ground systems development office are

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our interface to the recovery forces for

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the us navy they're also in charge of

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the transport back from

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the uh

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us

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the the navy station in san diego back

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here to florida

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uh

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the jsc

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uh flight control team in the mcc

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is

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the jsc team we're not creating an extra

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team we have added support to them

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we have our

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lockheed martin engineering support

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that is independent but

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everywhere can where it makes sense we

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use this blended team and i think that

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that's something that when we get done

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with this flight mark and i and our

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teams will have to sit back and say what

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worked really well

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what would we change how would em-1 look

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different

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from this so it's not just a flight test

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of a spacecraft but it's also a flight

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test of

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how

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we interact

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between nasa and the lockheed martin

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team

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and with that then i'll pass it on

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thanks

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hello i'm ron fordson with united launch

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alliance and i just want to say you know

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we're really thrilled and honored to be

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a part of this uh

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this this mission uh the delta iv heavy

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was selected by lockheed martin to to

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launch the uh nasa's eft one and we

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couldn't be more more excited to get

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this opportunity to do this today it's

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been a lot of a lot of teamwork

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tremendous you've heard it from all the

342
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other two folks the teamwork has been

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the key to success to get to where we

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are right now thousands of people been

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working thousands of hours to uh to get

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here you know we started about two and a

347
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half years ago with with lockheed martin

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we kicked off this uh this mission and

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started the production out in our

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decatur facility in in alabama about two

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years ago building this building this

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heavy heavy rocket you know it consists

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of uh three common booster cores uh with

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an rs each has an rs68 uh rocketdyne lj

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rocketdyne engine on the bottom of it

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and uh you know we're looking

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to take that along with the second stage

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which is an rl10 aeroj on rl10 second

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stage and uh and deliver them where they

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need to go that's that's really i know

361
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you've heard about this is a test flight

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but from from ul's perspective this

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isn't a test for us

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our objective is to deliver them right

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where they need to be so they can start

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their activities so that's what it's all

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about for ula i would like to show a

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short video of

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some of the launch processing that's

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occurred since we've uh

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delivered the hardware here you can see

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that's the mariner it delivered the

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hardware it took eight days to get here

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from decatur uh basically we offloaded

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that uh that's one of the common booster

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cores coming off and we're we basically

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got on our transporter and and and we

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transported down to the horizontal

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integration facility that you see right

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there once we get in there we start

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doing initial processing of that

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we basically take the you know the three

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cores that i talked about the core and

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starboard and port uh common booster

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cords and we made them together you can

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see that's happening there we're

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basically attaching three rockets

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together uh then we go ahead and mate

389
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the uh the second stage which is going

390
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to put it into that elliptical orbit

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that they need in order to meet all

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their objectives we make the made that

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then we attach it to the launch mount

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unit you can see at the very bottom

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there it gets transported out to the pad

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takes takes quite a few hours it's only

397
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traveling five miles an hour but it we

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got to be careful make sure we get it

399
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there once we get it there there's a

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fixed pad erector that's underneath the

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uh underneath the rocket right there and

402
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you can see essentially lift the lifts

403
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the vehicle vehicle up those launch

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mounts that on the very bottom of the

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rocket that's basically what we're going

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to launch it off of uh those get

407
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attached you can see here there's the

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the orion capsule coming out

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to the pad we we basically lift it up

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you can see it's being lifted into the

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into the mobile service tower and then

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we stack it on top and and uh you know

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and then

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on thursday this is what we're looking

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to do

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put them up in orbit so

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so it's been a really a really great

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effort you know we've had quite a few

419
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readiness reviews getting to here

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yesterday we had our system

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certification review

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where we our technical team went through

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all the risk of this mission

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and all the hardware mission analysis

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all the design activity associated with

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this mission and we're good to go

427
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this morning we completed our launch

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readiness review

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with the customer uh we looked at our

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launch vehicle making sure it's ready as

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well as a spacecraft and then we looked

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at all the range assets that everything

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that's here to support this mission and

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uh we're ready to go so it's we're

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really excited about that you know at

436
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the launch pad right now there's a few

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things going on uh we're doing all our

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final safety walk downs with all with

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with the rocket making sure everything's

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good like as was mentioned by mark we

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had opportunity to go out there this

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morning and uh it looks it looks really

443
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good it's in good shape and we're really

444
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excited to uh to launch this on thursday

445
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so we're finishing that up we're closing

446
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out all the all the compartments and uh

447
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you know tomorrow evening we'll have a

448
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weather briefing which weather's looking

449
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looking pretty good uh we'll go ahead

450
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and roll the we'll move the mobile

451
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service tower out and a little bit

452
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before midnight folks will team will get

453
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on console around midnight or so and and

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then we'll we'll start the countdown uh

455
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in preparation for the 705 a.m launch so

456
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we're really uh really looking forward

457
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to that you know uh it's as i mentioned

458
00:15:24,389 --> 00:15:22,880
it's been a great teamer team effort

459
00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:24,399
from all of us uh you know one of the

460
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things from united launch alliance is

461
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you know we really focus on perfect

462
00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:30,560
product delivery uh it's very important

463
00:15:34,870 --> 00:15:32,959
that we get everything right and uh you

464
00:15:36,949 --> 00:15:34,880
know we have a relentless focus on

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mission success because uh you know it

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doesn't doesn't do any good if we don't

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put the customers where they want to be

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and that's that's really what it's all

469
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about so once again it's a pleasure to

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be part of this team uh and we're

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looking forward to an exciting launch on

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thursday thank you

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00:15:52,949 --> 00:15:51,839
maybe we should give them a ron did a

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00:15:54,710 --> 00:15:52,959
really good job of describing that we

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had the lrr today

476
00:15:58,389 --> 00:15:55,920
maybe we should just let everybody know

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where we are as far as getting

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preps for launch so that we have our our

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mmt l minus two mmt today at three

480
00:16:07,829 --> 00:16:06,000
uh mike and i will be there lock your

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chair but nasa is a part of that and i

482
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expect maybe three or four pieces of

483
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open paper which are really wrapping up

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reports of tests and and the last pieces

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of closing the hatch and those kind of

486
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things so it's very

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very

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not working any any issues for the

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flight the the the folks that are

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recovering orion left yesterday the the

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navy ships they will both be on site

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tomorrow

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um the recovery weather is also

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projected to be very good

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with six foot wave heights 11 11 second

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period so that's really good for

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recovery looks good for us so we're

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green for the recovery conditions at

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least that's a prediction for today

500
00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:47,759
excuse me it's today's prediction for

501
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thursday

502
00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:50,639
just to be clear and ron mentioned

503
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though the weather here at the site uh

504
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as far as getting the rocket off on

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00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:55,600
thursday also looks good there's some

506
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constraints with some rain coming in but

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00:17:01,590 --> 00:16:59,920
all of that looks really really good and

508
00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:01,600
so it's all ticking down and we'll of

509
00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:03,120
course we'll have the mmt today and then

510
00:17:06,470 --> 00:17:04,720
one tomorrow just to make sure but it

511
00:17:07,909 --> 00:17:06,480
all looks really clean at this point and

512
00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:07,919
we would remind folks that for this

513
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flight you know we have a two and a half

514
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:12,000
hour launch window so even though even

515
00:17:15,429 --> 00:17:13,760
the potential for rain that's coming

516
00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:15,439
thursday is likely

517
00:17:19,189 --> 00:17:17,280
you know the likelihood of finding a

518
00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:19,199
spot in that two and a half hour window

519
00:17:21,909 --> 00:17:20,799
to launch i think is pretty good yeah

520
00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:21,919
it's a really good point because you're

521
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used to space station launches where you

522
00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:25,439
have a very tight window we don't have

523
00:17:28,710 --> 00:17:26,640
that we've got about two and a half

524
00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:28,720
hours the fir we we launch as early as

525
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we can so we have a light here so we can

526
00:17:34,070 --> 00:17:32,400
see the separation events

527
00:17:35,669 --> 00:17:34,080
and then we're also there's also a

528
00:17:37,830 --> 00:17:35,679
thermal

529
00:17:39,430 --> 00:17:37,840
constraint beta angle solar angle

530
00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:39,440
constraint on the upper stage and then

531
00:17:43,270 --> 00:17:41,440
on also on the far back end we have we

532
00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:43,280
want to give the guys in off the coast

533
00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:44,960
of baja enough time to recover in the

534
00:17:48,310 --> 00:17:46,960
daylight so that's kind of the window

535
00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:48,320
but as mike said that gives us a lot of

536
00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:49,760
flexibility if it's raining right at the

537
00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:50,720
beginning the window we just wait a

538
00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:52,720
little bit until it clears and then go

539
00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:53,440
so

540
00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:57,360
we have a lot of flexibility on thursday

541
00:18:00,630 --> 00:17:59,120
okay i think now we're ready to take

542
00:18:02,470 --> 00:18:00,640
some questions so if i could just get

543
00:18:04,230 --> 00:18:02,480
you to uh state your name and

544
00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:04,240
affiliation before you start your

545
00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:06,160
question uh we'll open it up and when we

546
00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:07,280
start here

547
00:18:10,950 --> 00:18:08,480
thanks

548
00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:10,960
irene klotz with reuters uh for either

549
00:18:15,909 --> 00:18:13,600
mr house or mr guyer is the entire uh

550
00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:15,919
four and a half hour flight um

551
00:18:19,029 --> 00:18:17,440
pre-programmed is there going to be any

552
00:18:21,430 --> 00:18:19,039
kind of real-time

553
00:18:23,430 --> 00:18:21,440
controlling of the spacecraft or if

554
00:18:25,990 --> 00:18:23,440
anything is going amiss is there

555
00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:26,000
anything anybody can do and also aside

556
00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:27,520
from

557
00:18:31,669 --> 00:18:30,160
key events like parachute deploying and

558
00:18:35,029 --> 00:18:31,679
seeing that the heat shield keeps the

559
00:18:37,029 --> 00:18:35,039
spacecraft together to re-enter

560
00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:37,039
will you need to recover

561
00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:40,000
the the capsule to be able to tell if

562
00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:41,840
there was a computer out or anything

563
00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:43,760
like that or i guess kind of what i'm

564
00:18:47,590 --> 00:18:45,440
asking is what sort of real-time

565
00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:47,600
information will you be getting and will

566
00:18:51,990 --> 00:18:50,000
you be able to uh to uh

567
00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:52,000
take control of yeah those are great

568
00:18:55,110 --> 00:18:53,679
questions

569
00:18:57,350 --> 00:18:55,120
so there's there's a couple aspects of

570
00:18:59,350 --> 00:18:57,360
that that the

571
00:19:00,710 --> 00:18:59,360
orion is programmed for the full

572
00:19:02,230 --> 00:19:00,720
sequence today

573
00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:02,240
so it can

574
00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:04,880
control the whole mission today

575
00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:07,440
the uh but there are a series of we call

576
00:19:11,669 --> 00:19:09,840
them contingency commands that we have

577
00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:11,679
worked the whole nasa lockheed team has

578
00:19:15,909 --> 00:19:13,760
worked that the flight control team in

579
00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:15,919
houston has if there are

580
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:17,280
things that we want to do if we want to

581
00:19:21,669 --> 00:19:20,000
reconfigure systems uh to put ourselves

582
00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:21,679
in the best posture for re-entry for

583
00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:23,039
example

584
00:19:26,950 --> 00:19:25,280
the team has the ability to do that and

585
00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:26,960
there's a couple tiers of those some of

586
00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:27,760
those

587
00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:29,280
for some mission management team

588
00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:31,840
discussion about taking those actions

589
00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:33,120
some of those are right within the

590
00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:34,640
flight rules that we have all agreed

591
00:19:37,909 --> 00:19:36,000
between us that

592
00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:37,919
mike serafin as the flight director and

593
00:19:43,430 --> 00:19:40,640
his team can go off and do

594
00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:43,440
in terms of the data collection

595
00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:45,760
i would interpret the second question

596
00:19:50,549 --> 00:19:48,559
in a broader form of data collection

597
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:50,559
we do get some real-time data but a lot

598
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:53,520
of the data is recorded on board

599
00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:56,320
for post mission analysis

600
00:20:01,669 --> 00:20:00,080
there is also then the

601
00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:01,679
the need to

602
00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:03,919
the desire to get the capsule back both

603
00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:06,000
for that recorded data and also for the

604
00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:07,200
physical

605
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:08,960
evidence of how we got through the test

606
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:10,320
flight in fact we're having the debate

607
00:20:14,789 --> 00:20:12,880
now of whether we take core samples of

608
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:14,799
the heat shield right there basically on

609
00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:16,400
the dock or whether we wait till we get

610
00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:18,640
back to florida so so getting the data

611
00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:20,720
back we're going to actually offload the

612
00:20:24,549 --> 00:20:22,799
data

613
00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:24,559
and do some processing at a lockheed

614
00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:26,400
martin facility there in san diego so

615
00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:28,880
that we can get quick look data

616
00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:30,880
as quick as we can and we're looking at

617
00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:33,280
possibly taking some samples out there

618
00:20:38,789 --> 00:20:35,280
and then the rest of that will happen

619
00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:38,799
when we get the capsule back here to ksc

620
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:40,400
yeah so as far as your question about

621
00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:41,600
the computer

622
00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:43,120
we have the full range of telemetry

623
00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:44,960
telemetry so we're going to know what

624
00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:46,799
systems are up what's running what's not

625
00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:48,559
and so that gives us the input to know

626
00:20:52,149 --> 00:20:50,559
whether we want to send any contingency

627
00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:52,159
commands to change

628
00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:53,600
any of the strings that kind of so we're

629
00:20:57,750 --> 00:20:55,120
going to know exactly how the vehicle is

630
00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:57,760
behaving as far as the flight systems

631
00:21:01,590 --> 00:20:59,360
and as mike said we have what we call

632
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:01,600
dfi which is 1200 sensors that's

633
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:04,000
measuring temperatures vibration

634
00:21:07,029 --> 00:21:05,280
acoustics

635
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:07,039
we even had a radiometer on the heat

636
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,240
shield that's measuring the temperature

637
00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:10,559
of the plasma those are recorded and not

638
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:11,679
sent down

639
00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:13,679
so that's that there are two types of

640
00:21:15,909 --> 00:21:14,559
data

641
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:15,919
that we have and so as mike said we need

642
00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:18,000
to get the capsule back to get that dfi

643
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:19,840
those 1200 measurements but as far as

644
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:21,280
how the vehicle is going to go how it's

645
00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:22,559
operating we're going to know that as we

646
00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:23,440
fly

647
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:28,710
associated press two questions the first

648
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:31,039
is how quickly will you get the capsule

649
00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:33,760
back post flight to kennedy

650
00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:34,960
and

651
00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:36,720
secondly it's going to be four years

652
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:39,039
before another orion flies three more

653
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:41,280
years potentially before people climb on

654
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:43,120
board how frustrating is it to have to

655
00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:44,480
wait so long

656
00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:46,000
after your first

657
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:47,039
debut

658
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:50,559
so um the the guys at in they'll they'll

659
00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:52,240
pick up the orion they'll get it back to

660
00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:54,640
the pier so if we launch on the fourth

661
00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:56,240
or fifth we'll be back here before

662
00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:58,320
christmas with the capsule they'll

663
00:22:02,549 --> 00:22:00,320
basically truck it they'll get it off

664
00:22:04,149 --> 00:22:02,559
the ship put on a put on a truck that

665
00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:04,159
has all the licenses and everything else

666
00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:05,280
you need to ship something like that

667
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,880
across the country so it'll be back here

668
00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:08,480
before christmas

669
00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:10,240
we will unload the data as mike said

670
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:12,320
even before we leave and we're looking

671
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:14,320
at taking some samples even before it

672
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:16,320
gets on the truck but we'll have it for

673
00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:18,880
christmas here

674
00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:20,240
yeah we

675
00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:22,240
you know there is a gap between these

676
00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:24,640
flights and we recognize uh you know

677
00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:26,240
that's really a budget-driven question

678
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:29,520
it's not a matter of ability to to build

679
00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:31,360
these capsules and to analyze them it's

680
00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:32,720
a budget thing we understand where the

681
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:34,400
budget is and that

682
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:36,320
the budget's tight for everybody we we

683
00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:39,039
feel really fortunate uh to be in the

684
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:42,080
budget plan um a bipartisan agreement on

685
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:43,919
the budget plan and our job is to

686
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:46,240
execute to that plan so yeah i wish they

687
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,679
would go faster

688
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:49,600
uh but i think this is a good plan given

689
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:50,960
the budget we've got and i think the

690
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:52,400
team's doing a great job executing to

691
00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:54,559
that plan so but i would add we're we're

692
00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:57,280
doing work for that next crew module

693
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:58,480
right now

694
00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:01,200
in terms of getting the the primary

695
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,480
structures

696
00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:04,080
uh

697
00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:06,320
formed machined

698
00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:08,240
uh getting some of the avionics a lot of

699
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:10,559
the the tripoli parts getting ordered in

700
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:12,240
fact we've actually already delivered

701
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:15,440
some cards to esa and airbus

702
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:17,600
uh for their use so there's actually a

703
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:19,840
lot of stuff that's already in a design

704
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:22,559
and production mode for the em1 crew

705
00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:27,029
hi clara moskowitz with scientific

706
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:28,880
american can you tell us more about the

707
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:30,720
heat shield what's new about this heat

708
00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:32,799
shield compared to materials that have

709
00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:35,440
been used on apollo and shuttle and

710
00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:37,120
besides just looking to see that it

711
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:39,200
survives re-entry what sort of testing

712
00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:40,960
will you do to see how the heat shield

713
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:43,200
performs thanks

714
00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:44,960
the material itself is called avcode

715
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:46,640
it's similar to apollo though there were

716
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:49,279
some constituents in the previous

717
00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:51,039
version

718
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,720
that allowed you to form it that were

719
00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:54,480
carcinogenic so we had to change some of

720
00:23:58,230 --> 00:23:55,919
that stuff and that actually does change

721
00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:58,240
the properties but more than that it's a

722
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:00,480
much bigger heat shield

723
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:04,080
you know apollo was on what 3.7 meters

724
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:07,440
ours is five and the orion is bigger so

725
00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:09,279
the landing loads are heavier they're

726
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:10,640
harder right

727
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:12,960
and so that changes a lot of the

728
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:14,559
properties that the heat shield has to

729
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:16,320
survive on landing so the loads are

730
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:17,440
different

731
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:20,799
those are the big things so one is how

732
00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:22,159
how

733
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:26,799
we have a lot of models that guess

734
00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:28,799
they're good models and we've done some

735
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:30,799
arc jet testing out in california so we

736
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:32,480
have guests about how much

737
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,080
of the arc jet will actually ablate

738
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:36,240
during the process and where it'll where

739
00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:38,159
it'll be the thinnest so the key part of

740
00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:40,000
the test is seeing whether those

741
00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:41,679
aerodynamic models were correct and we

742
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:43,120
guessed the right because that affects

743
00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:44,640
the thickness and the mass overall that

744
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:45,760
we're going to use that's a big part of

745
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:46,720
the test

746
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:48,000
and we also have a different structure

747
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,520
for this heat shield than they used in

748
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:51,360
apollo we have a composite

749
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:53,600
yeah the supporting structure is a

750
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:57,279
composite shell on a titanium skeleton

751
00:25:01,269 --> 00:24:59,520
and so that's a different methodology

752
00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:01,279
than they were able to use in apollo so

753
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:03,039
it's looking at the whole integrated

754
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:05,120
system is is key to that as well not

755
00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:07,279
just how well the the material ablates

756
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:13,669
hi i'm miriam kramer with space.com uh

757
00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:15,600
and this question is for whoever would

758
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:17,919
like to answer it but um i'm curious

759
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,840
first of all how many people are you

760
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:21,600
expecting to sort of view the launch

761
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:26,000
from ksc uh and also i i know there have

762
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:28,080
been a couple different numbers but just

763
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:29,840
if you could give a general estimate of

764
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:32,880
how much this eft one test

765
00:25:37,590 --> 00:25:36,080
costs then that would be great

766
00:25:39,669 --> 00:25:37,600
so i'm not sure what the current

767
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,679
projection is thousands yeah thousands

768
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,440
but i don't know exactly how many to

769
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:43,679
expect we're hoping for a lot yeah it's

770
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:46,320
a lot of a lot of energy so yeah eft one

771
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:47,600
cost the

772
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:50,480
the the cost that we calculated and uh

773
00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:52,159
when we talked about this flight was

774
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:54,400
around 370 million dollars that's the

775
00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:56,640
cost of the rocket plus

776
00:26:01,350 --> 00:25:58,400
pieces of the orion that we're not going

777
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:01,360
to reuse you know things we use one time

778
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,480
um

779
00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:04,400
so that's basically the

780
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:05,840
the cost that we've been talking about

781
00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:08,159
the rest the capsule itself we actually

782
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:09,760
reuse so we're going to use it on

783
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:11,360
another flight test

784
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:13,360
and another key part about i think

785
00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:15,039
overall cost is

786
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:16,799
that you know if we were done with

787
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:19,120
development and we had an orion totally

788
00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:20,880
certified and we were making copies it'd

789
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:22,960
be very easy to say okay this copy cost

790
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:25,039
me x million dollars but we're in the

791
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:27,279
middle of development so it's not that

792
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:28,720
we're just building software we're

793
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:30,000
actually developing the software

794
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:31,200
processes

795
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:33,440
and and ringing out part so it's part of

796
00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:35,520
what we call design development test and

797
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:38,799
evaluation ddt e so we don't split ddt e

798
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:41,279
by flight so we don't calculate it that

799
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:44,400
way we are as part of

800
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:47,200
part of a process for our

801
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:49,120
stakeholders we are doing an assessment

802
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:51,200
it's called key decision point c

803
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:52,640
sls went through it you might remember

804
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:54,880
there was a memo out for sls after the

805
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:57,120
pdr where we'll do the same thing and we

806
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,120
will we will estimate and and do

807
00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:01,360
independent cost estimates of our total

808
00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:02,400
cost

809
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:05,600
through uh em2 and we'll so once we have

810
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:06,720
that and we've done our independent

811
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:09,279
estimates that will be uh published as

812
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:11,440
the full cost both ddt and the cost of

813
00:27:15,029 --> 00:27:13,200
the flights through em2 so we're in the

814
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,039
process of really bringing that out

815
00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:19,590
hi james dean florida today

816
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:21,760
um i think for for mark um i wonder if

817
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:24,320
you could just give any more sense of of

818
00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:26,720
how big the stakes are for this mission

819
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:28,640
in the sense that you already described

820
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:30,320
you're you're working on it on a second

821
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:32,080
vehicle already

822
00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:36,000
um you've got you know the long gap so a

823
00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,240
lot of time to work with uh from this

824
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:40,240
mission to the next so

825
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:42,159
you know just in the unlikely event that

826
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:44,960
things don't go well um how badly do you

827
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:47,440
need you know the data from this to

828
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:50,320
you know get a vehicle that you can fly

829
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:51,919
for em-1

830
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:55,039
or um you know if you had a just

831
00:27:58,710 --> 00:27:56,880
a worst-case scenario where the the heat

832
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:58,720
shield just utterly failed you know does

833
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:59,760
that

834
00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:01,440
you know going to be a major setback or

835
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:02,880
just have time to

836
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:04,880
to deal with it you know to keep on

837
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:06,159
schedule

838
00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:07,679
okay so good questions because there's a

839
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:09,919
lot a lot to that question let me say

840
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:11,840
first of all so this is a very very

841
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:14,559
important flight test for us because we

842
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:17,440
while the uh we have great models and we

843
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:19,200
are we are fortunate and that we have

844
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,640
some of the smartest people on the on

845
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:22,320
the planet as part of this program and

846
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,440
have a lot of experience with space

847
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:25,120
flight um

848
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:27,679
you need to take those designs and

849
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:30,000
estimates and actually fly them and see

850
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:31,600
whether in the environment that we're

851
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,720
flying there's something that you don't

852
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,159
expect so that's why it's so big you

853
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:36,559
know we expect it to go fine

854
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:38,320
but you really have to fly it to test it

855
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:41,120
out um mike mentioned as far as the next

856
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:43,360
flight um and i'll get your contingency

857
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:45,520
question we've already started em-1 we

858
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,600
started em-1 a year and a half ago

859
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:49,679
uh and a lot of that was started based

860
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:52,000
on lessons we learned on building eft-1

861
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:54,000
long before we fly it right when you

862
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:56,559
learn a bunch by building the first unit

863
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:57,760
we learned a bunch about building the

864
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:58,960
first heat shield and some things that

865
00:29:01,590 --> 00:29:00,240
we want to do differently for the next

866
00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:01,600
one we learned about things we can do

867
00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:02,880
cheaper we learned about things we can

868
00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:04,640
do lighter we learned about things that

869
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:06,320
we can make the performance better all

870
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:08,000
of those things we rolled into m1 which

871
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:09,760
have already started about a year and a

872
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:11,120
half ago

873
00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:12,640
so um

874
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:15,440
and and i would say uh we're not

875
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:17,200
we're not sitting back with our feet up

876
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:19,600
on our desks uh working em-1 i mean we

877
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:21,440
are slamming that we are we are now

878
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:23,679
working that one uh it is we are on the

879
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:25,520
critical path to get em1 done teams

880
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:27,039
working very hard so based on the budget

881
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:28,880
we have we are working full time to get

882
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:30,320
that next one done so i don't want to

883
00:29:33,909 --> 00:29:31,840
confuse people there's a lot of margin

884
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:33,919
to get to m1 there's not based on the

885
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:35,840
plan we have today

886
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,320
as far as what happens it'll depend

887
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:40,320
it'll depend on what happens uh as far

888
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:42,320
as what that means we know em1 is an

889
00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:44,240
unmanned flight

890
00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:47,679
there's not people on it so it seems to

891
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:49,440
me we could find something very well

892
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:51,360
could find something eft one and still

893
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:52,559
decide

894
00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:53,919
that we just go ahead and move on to

895
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:56,000
em-1 we can fix those things and it's

896
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,440
still an unmanned flight and we don't

897
00:30:01,830 --> 00:29:59,600
have to refly eft-1 but it'll depend on

898
00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:01,840
what we find and the key about e-m1 is

899
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:03,440
now we're on the big rocket too so

900
00:30:05,669 --> 00:30:04,480
there'll be different different

901
00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:05,679
environments and other things that we

902
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:06,840
find

903
00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:08,480
so

904
00:30:12,789 --> 00:30:09,919
did that answer your question james do

905
00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:14,789
i guess if if i

906
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:16,000
attempt to be maybe a little more

907
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:17,760
specific i mean clearly again the heat

908
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:20,559
shield is is um

909
00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:23,679
the the key focus of the test right so

910
00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:25,120
is that the thing where you're most

911
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:26,960
hoping to get some

912
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:29,039
specific you know some some real results

913
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:31,520
that will inform the design of the next

914
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:32,320
one

915
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:34,960
um or are there many other systems that

916
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:37,600
you know might be modified you know as a

917
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:39,360
result of what you see yeah this week

918
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:41,360
yeah great question that the emo the

919
00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:42,960
heat shield is the one where we needed

920
00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:46,399
this orbit right this 3 600 miles this

921
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:48,320
84 percent of the lunar entry velocity

922
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:49,760
that's what drove

923
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:52,320
that specific parameter of the test but

924
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:54,159
the heat shield is only one system of

925
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:55,600
many that we're really

926
00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:57,360
testing on this flight these separation

927
00:31:02,070 --> 00:30:59,519
events pulling the lass off jettisoning

928
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:02,080
the fairings on the service module and

929
00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:03,519
all the entry navigation into guidance

930
00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:05,519
make sure the computers are working

931
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:07,679
survive the radiation that our all our

932
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:10,159
guidance algorithms are correct we're

933
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:12,399
operating the rcs system correctly all

934
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:14,240
the parachutes deploy

935
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:15,600
you know all of those we've tested

936
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:17,200
individually

937
00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:18,880
certainly test it on the ground but to

938
00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:21,039
see them actually work in the flight

939
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:22,720
environment that's

940
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:24,000
that's what that's what this test so

941
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:25,679
there's a lot of things other than just

942
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:27,279
the heat shield that we're testing so

943
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:28,240
again

944
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:29,360
i do hope

945
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:31,200
uh if there are unusual things in the

946
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:32,960
environments uh

947
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:35,200
with the vehicle and we have missed

948
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:36,399
those in the models i hope we'd learn

949
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,440
them on this flight because that's the

950
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:39,600
whole idea but if we do have a failure

951
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:40,960
of something we've got to look about

952
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:42,960
what it was specifically and then we'll

953
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:44,399
make a determination as to how that

954
00:31:51,350 --> 00:31:49,830
bill harvard cbs news with two quick

955
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:51,360
ones um

956
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:53,039
the the launch weather criteria for the

957
00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:54,640
delta iv heavy were there any

958
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:56,640
modifications or changes because this is

959
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:58,880
eft-1 in terms of visibility

960
00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:01,200
requirements for example uh number one

961
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:03,279
and number two i'm still a little fuzzy

962
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:05,279
on what real-time video we're gonna we

963
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:07,360
can expect from the spacecraft during

964
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:09,039
the mission versus what's recorded on

965
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:10,960
board and and

966
00:32:13,909 --> 00:32:12,880
if all else fails and we rely on what's

967
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:13,919
on board

968
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:15,360
it's a question for brandy when would we

969
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,559
expect

970
00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:18,320
you guys to get that back to put out on

971
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:19,679
the satellite for those of us to see

972
00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:20,880
that day so

973
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:23,200
just some visibility questions

974
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:24,720
so so first question make sure you

975
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:26,399
understand in terms of the

976
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:28,320
launch constraints you said in terms of

977
00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:29,679
visibility

978
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:30,799
i just was curious are there any

979
00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:33,120
differences for eft one versus what you

980
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:35,120
normally do for a delta iv sure or is it

981
00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:36,960
just exactly the same sure there are

982
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:39,279
some differences uh obviously uh you

983
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:40,799
know you can look at what's on top it's

984
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,720
a it's going to be an unfair type of

985
00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:44,799
payload that we're we're flying which is

986
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:46,960
different so uh you know it required us

987
00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:49,919
to do some uh some extensive uh

988
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:51,919
uh wind tunnel testing to make sure we

989
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,240
understood that you know we're flying

990
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,640
flying this type of uh payload uh what

991
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:58,159
the effects it would have on the rocket

992
00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:00,960
so there was some some work done there

993
00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:02,559
there's a lot of mission unique type

994
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:04,559
analysis work that we had to do because

995
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:07,760
of this uh how we command through some

996
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:09,200
of the commanding and the sequencing of

997
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:10,960
the the flight profile there was some

998
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:12,799
some changes we had to do there to to

999
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:15,120
support some of the unique requirements

1000
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:17,760
of this this mission uh also you know

1001
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:18,640
from a

1002
00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:22,640
you know there were some unique

1003
00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:24,080
requirements from an environmental

1004
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:26,240
control system that we had

1005
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,240
to meet for the uh which required us to

1006
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:30,480
add another swing arm we had to modify

1007
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:31,919
our swing arm uh so that we could

1008
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:34,159
provide them the these the environmental

1009
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:35,919
control systems that they needed to

1010
00:33:39,509 --> 00:33:38,480
support their their payload and then you

1011
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:39,519
know we actually had to do some

1012
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:41,760
structural changes to the to the pad

1013
00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:43,600
itself because we normally carry a four

1014
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:45,679
meter and five meter type payload and

1015
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:47,840
and the orion payload is it was five and

1016
00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:48,960
a half or

1017
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:51,600
meters and uh so basically it was too

1018
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:54,240
small so we had to basically modify our

1019
00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:56,960
platforms to to allow it uh to be able

1020
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:58,559
to accommodate that so so those are the

1021
00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:00,480
type of changes you know we made in

1022
00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:02,080
order to accommodate that but you know

1023
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:03,919
most of those but for for the most part

1024
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:05,200
though the rocket

1025
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:07,279
you know the is pretty much the same but

1026
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:08,960
just we had to do some unique analysis

1027
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:12,320
to support uh support this mission so

1028
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:14,240
does that answer your question

1029
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:16,159
actually it was extremely useful but it

1030
00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:17,599
wasn't really what i was asking about

1031
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:19,040
okay all right

1032
00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:21,119
so maybe okay it was useful no i was

1033
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:22,639
interested in the in the launch weather

1034
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:24,320
criteria for adults is there any

1035
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:26,159
difference from a weather standpoint in

1036
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:27,200
terms of being able to see the

1037
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:29,440
spacecraft as you go uphill that was one

1038
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:32,000
and then no and two for us for mark or

1039
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:33,440
just on visit what we're going to see

1040
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,440
during the mission

1041
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:37,280
okay from the weather perspective

1042
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:39,280
there's no it's the same constraints we

1043
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:41,440
we have obviously lightning is something

1044
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:43,679
that we're concerned about uh you know

1045
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:45,359
precipitation we can't fly through

1046
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:47,200
precipitation at certain altitudes those

1047
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:49,280
are constraints we also have constraints

1048
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,839
with wind uh you know the weather right

1049
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:53,440
now is predicted to be you know the

1050
00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:54,960
winds aren't going to be too high so we

1051
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:56,720
shouldn't have any trouble you know at

1052
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:59,440
liftoff but those are all the type of

1053
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:00,960
constraints from a weather perspective

1054
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:02,560
we're looking at right now

1055
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:04,720
we don't expect to have any of those uh

1056
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:06,880
type of issues for us but none of them

1057
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:07,680
are

1058
00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:12,390
yeah

1059
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:15,839
the cameras i think i know but i sure

1060
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,400
said um so we of course will have the

1061
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:19,920
great launch views that you're used to

1062
00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:22,640
um then once it gets going we'll get we

1063
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:24,400
think views from the cameras on the

1064
00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:26,720
service module that show us the fairings

1065
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:28,640
the protective panels

1066
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:30,320
being separated uh that's about six

1067
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:31,760
minutes in and right after that the

1068
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:34,079
launch abort system jettisons and that

1069
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:36,000
uncovers the crew module so we'll start

1070
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:37,760
getting views from the cameras inside

1071
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:39,119
the crew module after that looking out

1072
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:41,680
the windows so um you know sometimes

1073
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:43,200
we'll be in the dark just like we are

1074
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:46,000
with the space station and sometimes um

1075
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:48,079
it'll orion will be rotating so we'll be

1076
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:49,520
looking out to space rather than down at

1077
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:50,880
the earth but we're hoping to get some

1078
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:53,359
really good earth views and then we have

1079
00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:55,440
an unmanned aircraft that's going to try

1080
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:57,440
and get video of the

1081
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:58,560
crew module coming down under the

1082
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,839
parachutes at the end of the mission as

1083
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:01,359
well so hopefully we're gonna have a lot

1084
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:02,880
of good video for you

1085
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:04,720
um a lot of it is kind of dependent on

1086
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,160
on everything working right just like

1087
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:07,839
the rest of the flight test

1088
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,560
but

1089
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:10,240
for the recorded video there's some

1090
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:11,760
about an hour into the flight that we're

1091
00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:13,839
going to try and get down some of the

1092
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:15,359
recorded video of the launch abort

1093
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:16,640
jettison

1094
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:18,800
and if we get that we hope to play it

1095
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:20,640
for you by the end of the mission but if

1096
00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:22,160
we're not able to of course we'll get it

1097
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:29,829
more questions here

1098
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:32,960
i've got one back there

1099
00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:34,880
okay

1100
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:37,119
uh sawyer rosenstein with talking space

1101
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:38,400
a lot of people are comparing this to

1102
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:40,560
the early apollo test missions and some

1103
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:41,520
people are saying that you know we've

1104
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:43,839
done this before with these what makes

1105
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,560
this mission so special that um

1106
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:48,160
or what can we learn in particular from

1107
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:49,520
this mission that we can't learn from

1108
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:52,320
something say an apollo and also uh

1109
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:53,760
after this the focus switches a lot more

1110
00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:56,000
to sls but what will be the future in

1111
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:00,870
i think the key difference between

1112
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,960
apollo is that the inside of the capsule

1113
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:04,640
is totally different

1114
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:05,920
and you can think of the computers

1115
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:07,280
themselves we know

1116
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:08,880
how much computing power has changed

1117
00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:10,160
since the 60s so we have

1118
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:12,560
state-of-the-art computers on orion that

1119
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:14,640
not only help this unmanned craft but

1120
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:15,760
eventually

1121
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:18,720
allow the crew to have incredible access

1122
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:20,720
to the systems on board which you'll

1123
00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:22,079
need when they're further and further

1124
00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:23,280
away from earth and need to be more and

1125
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:24,800
more independent

1126
00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:26,640
uh the the interesting things about

1127
00:37:29,829 --> 00:37:28,240
computers now

1128
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:29,839
is although they are much more powerful

1129
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:31,200
they're also more susceptible to

1130
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:32,800
radiation than the than the earlier

1131
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:35,520
computers so we're we have a more

1132
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:37,680
powerful system but it's susceptible to

1133
00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:39,280
different kind of environments than the

1134
00:37:41,589 --> 00:37:40,560
apollo system so i think it's a good

1135
00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:41,599
example

1136
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:43,760
we're flying this particular design even

1137
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:44,960
though it's going through the same

1138
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:46,480
region of space

1139
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:48,000
it's got a different capability and it's

1140
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:49,200
going to have different reactions to

1141
00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:50,320
it's the same with the heat shield it's

1142
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:52,000
bigger as mike said the structure is

1143
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:53,280
different it's going to it's going to

1144
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:54,800
react different

1145
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:56,320
same with the parachute system has some

1146
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:57,920
fundamental differences

1147
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:00,800
um the back shell tiles on orion are

1148
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:02,800
shuttle like where on apollo they were

1149
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:04,720
more av coat right so for mass we got a

1150
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:07,200
shuttle light tile so again it's it's

1151
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:08,640
state of the art

1152
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:12,000
in the environment of space so i expect

1153
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:18,870
i uh in the back rory o'neill with i

1154
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:21,440
heart radio uh first to clarify to this

1155
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:24,400
liberal arts major the uh 86 percent of

1156
00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:26,000
lunar velocity could you just explain

1157
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:27,200
what that term is and the second thing

1158
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:29,920
is uh on the radiation exposure what's

1159
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:32,480
the concern and and how much of an x

1160
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:33,920
factor is it do you know what to expect

1161
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:36,400
uh going out there so that yeah the the

1162
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:38,160
full lunar so if you were coming back

1163
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,520
from the moon

1164
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:41,200
uh you'd have a certain velocity and

1165
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:42,640
you're gonna hit the atmosphere at that

1166
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:43,599
speed

1167
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:45,280
um and then you're gonna uh and your

1168
00:38:47,990 --> 00:38:46,560
heat shield needs to be able to handle

1169
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:48,000
that well we're not gonna go all the way

1170
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:49,599
to the moon with the delta iv heavy we

1171
00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:51,760
need we need sls to do that

1172
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:53,359
but delta iv does a great job of getting

1173
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:57,040
us close so the 84 was really the

1174
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:58,400
where we could get to with a with the

1175
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:00,320
delta iv heavy which is pretty darn

1176
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:02,560
close and we actually are

1177
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:04,640
transitioning

1178
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:06,720
the physics of reentry

1179
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:09,359
um change as you go faster in fact it

1180
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,800
becomes more of a radiate of heating

1181
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:12,720
this plasma behind the heat shield or

1182
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:14,800
behind the shock layer starts heating

1183
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:16,400
the heat shield differently

1184
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:18,079
and you need to get fast enough to start

1185
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:20,079
seeing that it's much different than a

1186
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:21,760
entry from leo

1187
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:23,440
so we need to get to this region and

1188
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:24,960
that's what delta iv is able to do for

1189
00:39:27,829 --> 00:39:26,800
us so i hope it answered that question

1190
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:27,839
and i'm sorry what was your other

1191
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:29,119
question

1192
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:31,119
oh yeah so we we have a lot of systems

1193
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:33,599
that go out to geo excuse me uh

1194
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:35,520
geosynchronous orbit got a lot of com

1195
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:37,040
sides so we cut we kind of know what

1196
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:39,520
this radiation band looks like

1197
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:41,599
um the difference is this these

1198
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:43,839
particular computers chips

1199
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:45,280
we've tested them on the ground in

1200
00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:46,480
certain conditions there's some

1201
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:47,839
universities that have some labs that

1202
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:49,920
can do that but you really need to fly

1203
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:51,839
them to go through that and what happens

1204
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:53,920
is this radiation can actually

1205
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:56,400
cause what we call an upset it can cause

1206
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:58,880
a glitch in the data the computers are

1207
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:00,960
smart enough to know if they've got

1208
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:03,920
funny data and they'll stop and reset

1209
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:04,800
so

1210
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:06,400
they're smart enough to do that our

1211
00:40:11,109 --> 00:40:08,480
computers will reset we actually have

1212
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:11,119
two computers uh if they both reset

1213
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:12,240
there's another

1214
00:40:16,309 --> 00:40:14,319
uh memory system that lets those

1215
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:16,319
computers go okay i reset but here's the

1216
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:17,359
state of the vehicle because they need

1217
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:18,480
to know what the state of the vehicle is

1218
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:20,640
when they stopped so we've accounted for

1219
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:21,760
that

1220
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:24,640
part of what you have to think through

1221
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:25,680
when you know this is kind of

1222
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:26,960
environment you go through and as we go

1223
00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:27,920
to the moon we're going to go through

1224
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:29,200
this region

1225
00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:35,430
diversity and steam had a few different

1226
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:37,839
questions first of all uh in the trial

1227
00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:40,640
by fire video uh they mentioned uh the

1228
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:43,599
computers on port orion uh performing uh

1229
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:46,800
480 million instructions per second

1230
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:48,720
um is there a way that you can translate

1231
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:50,800
that into um

1232
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,520
like a more compute uh consumer friendly

1233
00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:55,680
uh

1234
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:02,309
i think that whole thing was an attempt

1235
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,880
to communicate to computer people

1236
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:06,560
uh how fast they were

1237
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:12,870
are there any parts of uh em-1 that

1238
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:14,880
you're holding off building

1239
00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:23,190
is uh the delta iv heavy the only uh

1240
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:24,560
vehicle

1241
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:26,000
uh capable

1242
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:27,920
of making the uh

1243
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:30,800
of uh flying to these altitudes

1244
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:32,960
or flying orion to these altitudes

1245
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:35,440
rather and can you go into some

1246
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,640
specifics on um

1247
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:39,839
the way that you're going to be

1248
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:41,280
collecting data

1249
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:42,960
on um

1250
00:41:46,829 --> 00:41:44,480
what what would have been

1251
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:46,839
crew exposure to the

1252
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:50,640
radiation so we have uh

1253
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:53,280
for this test flight the delta iv was

1254
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:55,680
was the most capable system

1255
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:57,839
that we had that could get us that range

1256
00:42:02,150 --> 00:41:59,359
of altitude and the way mark just

1257
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:02,160
described it as having that transition

1258
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:04,160
where you see the the plasma heating

1259
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:06,319
behind the the shock layer that's

1260
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:07,839
where we're driving to

1261
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:10,000
the space launch system certainly could

1262
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:12,079
but uh we want to do this test before

1263
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:13,520
we're gonna have the space launch system

1264
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:16,000
available to us but it's the delta iv is

1265
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:17,359
the largest thing we have today that

1266
00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:22,390
the

1267
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:24,400
we do have a lot of radiation sensors on

1268
00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:25,839
board

1269
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:27,119
that's a great segue though because it

1270
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:28,720
gives me the opportunity to let folks

1271
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:31,359
know that our student engineer and

1272
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:33,119
design competition winners are around

1273
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:34,400
the side of the room here from the

1274
00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:36,720
governor's school in hampton virginia

1275
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:40,319
so lockheed and nasa ran a

1276
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:41,839
a competition and one of the things we

1277
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:43,680
wanted to focus on was the radiation

1278
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:45,200
susceptibility

1279
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:49,359
so we had teams all over the country

1280
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:52,160
and down selected to five teams that

1281
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:53,520
just at

1282
00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:55,040
in april at the science and engineering

1283
00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:56,720
festival in d.c

1284
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:58,160
announced the governor's school as the

1285
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,040
winner

1286
00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:01,440
so they have designed a payload that's

1287
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:03,280
inside the capsule now

1288
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,119
that has a radiation monitor inside of

1289
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:09,839
several different shielding

1290
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:11,520
materials to look at how well can we

1291
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:13,520
shield against radiation for that so

1292
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:15,119
that's a number of experiments that were

1293
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:17,440
actually flying inside

1294
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:19,520
to to demonstrate different material

1295
00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:21,680
properties and different radiation

1296
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:23,680
shielding

1297
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:30,550
hi ken kramer for universe today in

1298
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:33,040
america space for um mark and mike can

1299
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:34,560
you tell us a little bit more about the

1300
00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:37,680
actual schedule to build em1

1301
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:40,720
and when will it appear here can you

1302
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:44,319
also meet a 2017 december 2017 launch

1303
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:46,800
date and the last question is more about

1304
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:49,200
the lessons learned i understand you're

1305
00:43:52,829 --> 00:43:51,040
considering changing the heat shield

1306
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:52,839
what can you tell us about that thank

1307
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:55,520
you well i can speak to the schedule

1308
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:57,680
since i've spoken to it before

1309
00:44:02,470 --> 00:43:59,599
um at this point you know we have a lot

1310
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:02,480
of challenges to september 17 so that's

1311
00:44:06,309 --> 00:44:04,880
we won't be there at september 17. a

1312
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:06,319
part of that was

1313
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:08,880
as we talked about getting eft-1 done we

1314
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:10,560
learned a ton about getting it done but

1315
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:11,920
some of it took us a little bit longer

1316
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:14,160
than we expected and we've also added

1317
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:15,680
isa as a partner and they're doing a

1318
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:17,280
terrific job

1319
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:18,800
coming up to speed

1320
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,200
but their delivery schedule also will

1321
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:23,760
will push us past september the exact

1322
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:25,280
date

1323
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:26,960
uh that we're going to hit excuse me

1324
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:29,040
december december 17th the exact date

1325
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:30,240
we're going to hit is still something

1326
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,480
we're working through and because i know

1327
00:44:35,349 --> 00:44:34,240
whenever we announce a new date people

1328
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:35,359
are going to want to make sure that we

1329
00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:36,560
have a lot of confidence in it because

1330
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,599
you don't want to be changing that all

1331
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:39,359
the time so we're working that with

1332
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,040
headquarters doing an assessment of that

1333
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:42,960
based on the risks that we have today

1334
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:44,400
and that's again part of that that'll

1335
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,920
come out as the announcement after our

1336
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:47,200
kdpc

1337
00:44:51,349 --> 00:44:49,280
but it's not holding us up we know

1338
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:51,359
in in this year we know exactly what we

1339
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:52,400
need to be working we know what the

1340
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,920
critical path is and every day we're

1341
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,440
working those off so it's not that

1342
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:57,440
decision and determination of the final

1343
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:59,119
day just not slowing us down we're

1344
00:45:02,309 --> 00:45:00,240
moving

1345
00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:02,319
and we're machining primary structures

1346
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:04,640
for the next crew module so those are

1347
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:08,000
out at our suppliers now being worked

1348
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:09,839
so that within i think they start

1349
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:12,880
showing up at math in march

1350
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:14,640
and then we'll start assembling that

1351
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:16,240
capsule and it's

1352
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:17,760
towards the end of the year early 16

1353
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:18,800
that we actually have another crew

1354
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:21,599
module showing up in florida

1355
00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:26,150
uh the heat shield trade do you want to

1356
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:29,599
talk to you yeah so we're still you know

1357
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:30,720
a lot of the

1358
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:32,560
discussion we've had is about what we

1359
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:34,000
learned when we built the first one and

1360
00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:35,440
when we built the first one which will

1361
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:37,359
work great for eft one we learned that

1362
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:38,720
the material properties were a little

1363
00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:40,160
different than we expected it wasn't

1364
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:41,520
quite as strong

1365
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:43,359
as we expected that it would be so when

1366
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:45,119
we're looking at that we know that that

1367
00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:46,880
is the material itself the f code itself

1368
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:48,640
and as mike talked about the loads are

1369
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:51,200
pretty high for landing and entry

1370
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:52,880
especially now it's on this composite

1371
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:55,040
structure so the teams look at a lot of

1372
00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:56,960
things one is to get more confidence in

1373
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:59,359
the material properties find out why

1374
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:00,960
it was a little weaker than we expected

1375
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:02,880
or look at other or look at other

1376
00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:04,480
designs and there's another way you can

1377
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:05,599
build a heat shield where you actually

1378
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:07,040
build it in blocks

1379
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:08,800
and attach the blocks to the heat shield

1380
00:46:12,829 --> 00:46:10,240
and then you've got some seams that

1381
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,839
you've got to fill so we're looking at

1382
00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:14,880
both uh and the key thing is we're going

1383
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:16,640
to fly eft-1 and learn how that

1384
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:18,160
performed as well as a key part of there

1385
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:19,920
was a question about you know are we are

1386
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:21,440
we waiting on anything we're not waiting

1387
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,880
on eft-1 but we're certainly going to

1388
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:24,640
get the data from eft-1 and that'll help

1389
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:27,359
inform that that trade yeah and part of

1390
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:29,280
that was just the manufacturability of

1391
00:46:32,309 --> 00:46:31,119
the heat shield it's uh

1392
00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:32,319
the current

1393
00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:34,720
form which we refer to as monolithic is

1394
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:37,359
is really labor intensive and and

1395
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:38,240
yeah

1396
00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:40,000
it's you know you can't see it now but

1397
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:44,000
if you you saw it back 15 months ago or

1398
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:45,040
so

1399
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:47,040
the

1400
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:50,960
apollo command modules that's around in

1401
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:52,319
the museums you can see this little

1402
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:54,400
honeycomb structure and you realize that

1403
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:56,079
this material is injected like a

1404
00:46:59,589 --> 00:46:57,680
caulking gun into every single one of

1405
00:47:01,910 --> 00:46:59,599
those little honeycomb cells and then

1406
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:01,920
it's all machined well it's it's cured

1407
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:03,760
and then it's all machined

1408
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:05,680
and spot repaired and all this stuff so

1409
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:07,839
it's a very intensive process so one of

1410
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:10,480
the things we look at for all of these

1411
00:47:14,950 --> 00:47:12,960
systems is are there manufacturing

1412
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:14,960
lessons learned and that's where we're

1413
00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:16,800
looking at whether blocks are a better

1414
00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:19,359
manufacturing solution as well

1415
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:20,400
we've done that on the primary

1416
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:21,920
structures we've gone from the number of

1417
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:23,599
panels that we've formed that need to be

1418
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:24,960
welded together

1419
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:28,640
changes in in the weld process so

1420
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,960
right now each crew module we build is a

1421
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:32,640
little bit different because it's you

1422
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:34,960
know it's a little bit lighter it's a

1423
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:36,720
few you know a different

1424
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:38,319
set of panels and all of those are to

1425
00:47:46,549 --> 00:47:39,760
help inform them

1426
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,950
hi robert perlman with collectspace.com

1427
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:50,640
mark i may have misheard but i think you

1428
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:52,000
said that one of the things remaining to

1429
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:54,240
be done is to close orion's hatch if

1430
00:47:58,950 --> 00:47:56,720
that's true is there what is left to be

1431
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:58,960
done inside and a more general question

1432
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,640
i don't think we've seen any photos

1433
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:02,640
showing or video showing the in what the

1434
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:05,599
inside of the eft-1 orion looks like

1435
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:07,599
can you basically describe if someone

1436
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:08,960
was to look through the hatch what they

1437
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:10,240
would see

1438
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:12,880
yeah so the uh sorry the hatch is on and

1439
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:14,880
the the launch abort system hatch is

1440
00:48:18,549 --> 00:48:16,480
also on so we were out there today and

1441
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:18,559
it's it's all sealed up so those are

1442
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:21,440
done they're doing their last um

1443
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:22,800
we call it bridge wire checks just

1444
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:24,400
basically make sure the pyros are all

1445
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:26,559
set right and that's all and we close

1446
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:27,920
out the last piece of paperwork so

1447
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:29,359
that's all we have left to do it's all

1448
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:31,200
really really good if you were to look

1449
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:32,480
inside

1450
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:34,240
the crew module fundamentally what you'd

1451
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:35,040
see

1452
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:37,280
is the the the back shell which is

1453
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:39,680
basically a structural component that

1454
00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:40,800
lays out

1455
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:42,880
um volumes where we put the computers

1456
00:48:46,630 --> 00:48:44,640
and the computers are mounted in there

1457
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:46,640
then we also have the thermal control

1458
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:49,280
system so you'd see some valves

1459
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:52,000
uh and and the the tubes that keep the

1460
00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:54,559
cold that supply uh cooling for the cold

1461
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:56,559
plates that's what you would see inside

1462
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:59,680
then you'd see a couple of bags of flags

1463
00:49:02,309 --> 00:49:01,040
and stuff that you normally fly on a

1464
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:02,319
mission like that and you see a lot of

1465
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:03,760
wiring

1466
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:05,520
because the computers inside are

1467
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:06,800
controlling

1468
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:08,800
uh the thermal control system as well as

1469
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:10,800
the prop system and and the other

1470
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,400
avionics that are many of which is

1471
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:14,400
outside the vehicle so that's what you'd

1472
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:15,200
see

1473
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,559
we don't have

1474
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:18,559
seats so to speak but we do have mass

1475
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:20,480
simulators inside that

1476
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:21,440
that

1477
00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:23,040
make the vehicle

1478
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:25,839
feel like it had a seat there you'd also

1479
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:27,359
see a mass simulator for the displays

1480
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,559
and control panel because we're trying

1481
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:30,480
to make sure that the strut we know how

1482
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:32,079
the structure reacted to that mass

1483
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:33,200
because it kind of hangs off the

1484
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:35,280
structure so you see a mass simulator

1485
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:37,040
for that so that's that's the way it

1486
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:39,280
would look inside

1487
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:40,880
okay

1488
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:43,280
eureka rush the voice of america russian

1489
00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:44,720
service

1490
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:47,760
uh i have sort of contingency question

1491
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:49,599
what if things

1492
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:52,160
don't go with the sls exactly as

1493
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:54,000
expected what if there are some

1494
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:56,960
technical or budgetary issues

1495
00:50:02,710 --> 00:49:59,440
resulting in the serious program delay

1496
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:02,720
will you be able to modify orion so that

1497
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:06,000
it could fly as sort of autonomous space

1498
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:07,119
station

1499
00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:08,640
at least for a while

1500
00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:10,960
and continue being launched by delta iv

1501
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:12,559
thank you

1502
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:15,200
yeah our plan is sls we need sls to do

1503
00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:18,720
these these uh long range missions so we

1504
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:20,559
don't have any contingencies to use

1505
00:50:23,829 --> 00:50:22,240
another rocket delta four is great for

1506
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:23,839
this flight but it won't do the other

1507
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:26,960
missions that we need

1508
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,720
of course they burped with diversity and

1509
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:30,480
steam once again and i know you

1510
00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:31,920
mentioned some of the manufacturing

1511
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:33,119
processes

1512
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:35,680
and um the heat shield already but

1513
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:36,720
they're uh

1514
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:38,720
whether it be any other

1515
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:40,960
areas of um

1516
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:44,160
of em1 that that you'll be

1517
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:45,760
just kind of hanging back and waiting

1518
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:48,079
for the ft-1 data before you went ahead

1519
00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:49,119
with

1520
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:50,480
the the major

1521
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:53,359
systems that aren't flying are not as

1522
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:54,960
much because we're waiting on design

1523
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:56,640
data as it is

1524
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:58,480
we just phase those later in the program

1525
00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:59,760
for development because they're more

1526
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:01,760
associated with the human flight

1527
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:04,079
so things like the displays and controls

1528
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:06,400
and some of the habitation equipment

1529
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:07,839
isn't flying on this flight but that

1530
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:10,720
strictly has been a budget phasing

1531
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:13,200
discussion uh between us and nasa in

1532
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:14,480
terms of

1533
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:21,990
okay any other questions here

1534
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,359
all right then i think that will wrap up

1535
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:25,200
our briefing for today but of course as

1536
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:26,880
usual you want to stay tuned to nasa tv

1537
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:29,599
we've got a a big day coming up tomorrow

1538
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:33,119
for l minus one uh starting at six a.m

1539
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:34,800
eastern time with interviews with nasa

1540
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:37,200
administrator charlie bolden at 10 a.m

1541
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:38,400
we'll have our regular space station

1542
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,240
live programming and that'll be followed

1543
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:42,480
by another briefing at 11 a.m a

1544
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:44,160
pre-launch briefing to go over the final

1545
00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:46,160
details and then we'll wrap it up at 1

1546
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:48,160
pm with the nasa social so stay tuned

1547
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:49,440
and then in the meantime you can also